Comments for Guest Commentary: Thoughts on the Judicial Commission's decision on Bush at http://pres-outlook.net , comment 1 to 2 out of 2 comments http://pres-outlook.net Sat, 06 Sep 2008 12:02:45 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://pres-outlook.net/news-and-analysis/1-news-a-analysis/6963.html#comment-3825 Attorney Doug Nave would no doubt agree that there is such a thing as 'corporate conscience,' otherwise the PC(USA), and all justice-minded Christians, are simply wasting their time and energy tackling social issues. Why then, does he deny that it is possible for his own church to have a corporate conscience based on deeply held theological convictions in regard to ordination standards? Many GAPJC decisions have left me puzzled, but in this case Mr. Nave is the one speaking gibberish, while the GAPJC speaks with clarity and logic. - Karl McDonald Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:00:00 +0100 http://pres-outlook.net/news-and-analysis/1-news-a-analysis/6963.html#comment-3822 Mr. Nave overstates his case when he says that the GAPJC 'frustrated the efforts of the 217th General Assembly to end thirty years of polarized debate. It substituted the judgment of 14 persons, working three days, for five years of labor by the Theological Task Force and the determination of more than 500 commissioners to General Assembly that its recommendations mark the way forward for the church.' The fact is that the 217th General Assembly attempted, by a small majority (on Recomendation 5), to substitute the judgment of the whole church through its constitutional system. The GAPJC has simply stated that the PC(USA) must return to constitutional integrity. The Presbyterian Left must stop attempting to circumvent this process in order to get what it wants, in a classic 'the end justifies the means' strategy. Those who refuse to live by the authority of Jesus Christ in and through his Word are the ones who are causing a return to a national, presbytery-by-presbytery debate on sexual morality that Mr. Nave decries. It is not the fault of the GAPJC! In addition, one wonders whether the 217th General Assembly was truly attempting to 'end thirty years of polarizing debate,' or simply to silence the majority of the church that desires to live under the authority of Jesus Christ as he is attested in Holy Scripture! - Walter Taylor Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:00:00 +0100