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		<title>Peace, Unity, Purity Report adopted in committee as opponents try to delay implementation</title>
		<description>Comments for Peace, Unity, Purity Report adopted in committee as opponents try to delay implementation at http://pres-outlook.net , comment 1 to 2 out of 2 comments</description>
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			<title>confident - but wrong   (Rev. Michael Neubert, Herrin, Former moderator Presbytery of ...</title>
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			<description>Susan Niesen of Giddings-Lovejoy Presbytery is reported as saying she is confident that 'in our Presbytery, ordination standards are not going to be tested'.
 
This is wishful thinking at best.  The fact that homosexuals have been ordained in the face of an absolute prohibition is evidence that the standards are not only tested - they are ignored.  The fact that 'progressive christianity' is present in a denomination ostensibly part of the Reformed tradition is further evidence that the standards have been tested - and the standards lost.

Throwing the doors wide open to any practise the commisioners de jour may allow is an absolutely reckless and irresponsible decision.  The GA committee should be ashamed. - Michael Neubert</description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:00:00 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>pastor, First Pres Church of Olney, Phila., PA</title>
			<link>http://pres-outlook.net/news-and-analysis/1-news-a-analysis/1998.html#comment-2379</link>
			<description>A group of Presbyterians was lost in the woods.  Suddenly voices shouted, 'We found it! We found the path!'
 
Others shouted back, 'Where?  Tell us the way.'

The first voices replied, 'We can't. That would be subscriptionism.'

Still others asked, 'Can we use our shovels?'

The first voices replied, 'Don't use your shovels!  Everywhere the guidebook mentions shovels it warns agianst them.  And the guidebook to the guidebook explicitly prohibits them!  Using shovels is not a good idea!'

Said the others, 'I have scruples about your good ideas.  We will dig if we want to.  There are more ways out of these woods than your way.'

A lot of Presbyterians are still lost.









 - Bruce Becker</description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:00:00 +0100</pubDate>
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